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Wayne Blackburn, e-mail, 18.05.2022 02:18

Hi Robin, There is a write up about CF-BYM crash on a Canadian site. Plane crashed Oct. 01 1957 . Pilot Bill Cooper(37) Co-pilot Russell Stewart , PWA base manager/pilot Ian Watt of Prince George and engineer Keith Douglas. They were taking off from North Sovereign Lake 66 miles S.E. of Quesnel BC. They had two pontoons from a Beaver that had previously crashed at the lake attached to the outside of the aircraft.

John Morrow, e-mail, 21.11.2020 00:11

I flew on one of these when I was about 12. My dad worked at Vancouver Airport and Knew everyone else that worked there. It was on one of Queen Charlotte Airlines Stranraers. I lived on Lulu Island (Richmond) and had to cross the Marpole Bridge to get to Vancouver. We called the Stranraer the flying Marpole Bridge. We took off from the Fraser River and I have flown in many dozens of airplanes, but this was the weirdest of any. This was all 70 years ago.

Jolly Fucker, 14.02.2018 01:48

Anyone know where they were stationed in Scotland?

Bill Bambrick, e-mail, 31.12.2016 07:49

I have a detailed 3-view drawing of the Stranny, complete with an itemized list of interior parts. I don't know how it would send over the net, but I'll try, if anyone is interested. I built a 1/12 scale model of the plane, and gave it to the Air Museum at Boise idaho (Gowen Field), but I doubt that they know anything about it, and let it rest in a corner of their hangar, gathering dust.

Murray Kriner, e-mail, 25.12.2016 22:13

Appreciated the brief historical content, and personal comments, on what has become an albatross in British Aviation History. Still have a styrene model kit of this beautiful float plane, but always wished to find a set of scale drawings to build her in a larger scale in scruce rather. Thank you for the enjoyable article. Merry Christmas.

JOHN MANTOVA, e-mail, 22.04.2016 03:51

I'm given to understand that the engines were given UPTHRUST somewhat unwwually. I believe this was 5o correct a pendulum effect. Can anyone confirm and explain this? Regards John Mantova

Sol Litman, e-mail, 15.02.2015 18:46

Working at Cdn Vickerrs, Montreal. We helped cut out the mahogany wooden props for this aircraft. These props were 6 ft long and each engine had 2.Which made them 4 bladed not 3. This was in 1938 to 1942. I left to join the Cdn. Army and went overseas. If anyone has drawings of these props I would appreciate a copy, Many thanks Sol

Robin Luxmoore, e-mail, 11.01.2015 05:48

A stranraer crash somewhere near Yellowknife in the 1950s. It had landed on a lake and was attempting to take off with a canoe attached. It hit the trees and burst into flames. No survivors. I remember meeting the pilot sometime earlier. He was a delightful character who wore a seaman's hat.

Murray, e-mail, 21.06.2014 04:48

Here is some more of what I recall of the Hal's story as told on the Bob Fortune show:
The one about them being intercepted by jets from the McCord field near Seattle was fascinating. Whenever it was socked in over the top of Vancouver Island, the Strannies that had visited some place like Zabellos or Tahsis on the westcoast would have to fly down around the southern tip of the island to get to Vancouver, because they were not equipped with instrument flying (as note above, they were considered already obsolete when they were first manufactured). So whenever they did this, it would create a huge blip on the US radar (cold war years) and they would send out interceptors, who would come in, flaps down, trying to match the speed of this ancient beast, and mess up the air, making it uncomfortable and difficult to fly the Stranny. So the ex-pilot who was telling the story, decides to tell them to get lost, hooks a seat belt line to his waist, climbs down under the dash board, carrying a Dixy Cup tube (box) on which he has written two messages. HE opens up the front hatch. pops out waves at one of the pilots and shows him the messages written on a couple of sides.
Several months later, finds himself in a bar in the eastern states, (I think it was Detroit) talking to an American forces pilot. Somehow, this guy finds out he is from the west coast and says that he has a pal flying out of McCord field, who has been feeding him the damnedest tales about weird aircraft out there. "They got this big flying boat with a wing way up on top of it, and then there's another wing about 15 ft up above that!" So the Canadian whips out his wallet, pulls out a picture of his favourite Stranny, and says "You mean like this?? " The American looks at it in wonder, and says: "Yo' grandpappy fly that thang boy?" "No I fly it!" Yank, (looking entirely incredulous) "You boys from out west sure do tell some wild stories!!!"
Oh, and another part of the story was that the Yank reported about this guy popping out of the hatch with a sign that read: "HI THERE!" and then it was flipped around to say "BUZZ OFF"!
To which the Canadian corrected him and said: No, I wrote it and actually it said "FUCK OFF"!
"You boys from out west sure do tell some strange stories!!!"

Murray, e-mail, 18.06.2014 05:03

The interview referred to by Hal (above) was probably the one on the old Bob Fortune show on the CBC.. He interviewed several pilots who had flown the Strannies, and they had fascinating tales of their incredible flying accumen. One was that you could come in 50 ft above the water, cut the engines, and make a complete 180 deg. turn and land.
Another was about a Strannie flying from Dartmouth over the Atlantic having engine trouble and having to set down on a very rough sea. The first thing the crew did was get out and kick the fabric off the lower wing to make sure it did not get caught by a wave and turn turtle. Then they put out a distress call which resulted in a Catalina being sent to their rescue. After the Strannie crew had rescued the crew from the Catalina, which promptly sank, they managed to fire up the Strannie engines again, and then taxied all the way back to Dartmouth, where the lower wing had to be re-fabriced before it went back in service.

Another story told was about a prank you could pull on a copilot.  The Strannie had fore and aft hatches (like a boat, naturally) and if you had a new copilot, you could tell him you wanted a break -- just keep her on course, and maintain the altitude -- these things had top speed only about 150 knots, cruising speed about 85 knots I think.  Then you could go thru the cabin and out to the rear hatch where, when you opened it you could access the rear ailerons and if you pushed down on them, the plane would start to nose down, requiring the copilot to haul back on the stick, so you could push harder and harder until the copilot was reefing on the stick just as hard as he could trying to maintain trim and altitude.  Then when you let go the plane go soaring up on a sudden short climb, and when you went back to the cockpit, you could look askance at your copilot, as if he was not doing a very good job! 
That brief story by Hal, above, by the way, was highly embellished on that show and truely fascinating. I saw the show twice on the TV. If anyone has any influence with the CBC and can get that show released and loaded onto UTube, it would be wonderful to see again. It was truely priceless!

Hal, e-mail, 15.01.2012 05:28

I saw an interview with one of the crew that flew along the BC coast on TV several years ago. They strayed a little too close to US air space. Of course the plane created a large radar report and the US air force scrambled a couple of jets. The jets couldn't fly as slow as the Stranraer so they almost stalled while trying to communicate to the crew. Finally one of the Stranraer crew climbed to the hatch in the nose of the plane. He had made up a sign to communicate with the jets. The sign simply said, "F.. Off". Of course being an aircrew story it was probably embellished a bit.

Richard, e-mail, 12.08.2011 06:56

The editorial doesn't mention it, but 240 Sq equipped with Stranraers were actually based on Loch Ryan at RAF Wig Bay just five miles from the seaport of Stranraer in Scotland, for a few months between 1940-41, where the aircraft was named after. The top picture is a wartime Supermarine Stranraer about to land on Loch Ryan.

Harmen Kooyman, e-mail, 10.07.2011 22:56

The Stranreaer aircraft always had me fascinated. It was in the fifties when I worked up the coast of British Columbia and saw them often. I had only one ride in it and landing on choppy water which was the condition at the time,the noise when it hit was something else and where my feet were the floor was bobbing up and down hard enough to break one's ankle. (exaggerated of course) It felt much more comfortable to keep my feet off the floor.
Another incident with the aircraft was in 1955 when I went in my runabout powered by a 16hp Scott Atwater from Jumbo Island at the mouth of Knight inlet to Minstrel Island. There was a very strong Southeaster blowing at the time and the best route for me was to cross the inlet and continue in the lee of Village Isl. and Turnour Isl. As I crossed the inlet the Stranraer was nearly overhead and seemed to stay there for a long time bucking the wind. When I got to Minstrel Island the aircraft had just landed, but I was first at the dock. They were not an aircraft noted for speed.

Neil Bevan, e-mail, 04.04.2011 06:11

I am looking for scale drawings to build a flying r/c model
If anyone can help?

Joe Deprest, e-mail, 02.10.2010 23:07

Dear Mr. Bryan Lacey

In 1955 I flew in one of these planes on my way to Beaver cove for a job as boomman. I believe shortly after my flight it crashed. It was called the Tahsis Queen. If you have any information about this crash or the date when it occurred I would realy appreciate it.

Thank you


Bryan Lacey, e-mail, 18.02.2010 03:24

I emigrated to Canada in 1949 and worked up in the logging camps and at a sawmill at Telegraph Cove on northern Vancouver Island, British Columbia. Queen Charlotte Airlines flew Stranraers up and down the B.C. coast. The travel time prior to their use was about 22 hours by Union Steamships and they cut it to two hours. They flew in between the mountains over the ocean along the Inland passage. Low clouds, driving rain in the winter, but I never heard of an accident or problem,they always made it through. They flew north from Vancouver to Alert Bay and I believe up to Prince Rupert which is over 400 miles, I believe. They are mentioned on page 80, in a book (Raincoast Chronicles)written by a acquaintence Pat Wastell Norris. The book was published in 1995 by Harbour Publishing, P.O. Box 219. Madeira Park,B.C. Canada V0N 2H0. Everyone loved the Stranraers. I believe they went out of service in the mid 50's. Sincerely, Bryan Lacey

Garry Jantzen, e-mail, 30.01.2010 04:53

I have two pics of a Stranraer leased by PWA on the water in Coppermine, NWT in 1963 if anyone is interested. I just wish I had taken many more! Flying, interior, etc. (mentally kicking myself!)

stephen law, e-mail, 21.12.2009 21:21

My pride and joy is a large oil painting of this aircraft taking off in the Solent - signed by John Palmer '64. I bought it at the World Gliding Championships at South Cerney in (I think) 1965 before getting married when such indulgencies had to stop. This painting won top award in an exhibition of aviation artists at the Kronfeld Club - again either 1964 or 1965. Kind regards, Stephen Law.

Bob, e-mail, 20.09.2007 20:55

Does anyone have any interior (cockpit, etc.) information on this aircraft? Thanks

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