McDonnell Model 119/220

Eric Kaufman, e-mail, 19.08.2015 22:40 I hope that Jim is still available. I first became familiar with the 220 just after Dick Durand flew it from Wickenburg to ABQ around 1970. I pretty good track of it during the 70's and when the farmer from Washington St. bot it, I assisted with some of the restoration. The Steward Davis guys in Long Beach zero timed the engines (J34 WE34's) as I recall. I still have some of the original Flight Manuals for the ship as well as some of the Avionics manuals for the originally spec'd gear. I also recall that there were many spares such as the NESA Cockpit Windows, up in Barstow somewhere. Would love to hear what has happened with this magnificent machine... Best to all reply

mark sherman, e-mail, 27.10.2014 22:47 THE JET IS FOR SALE, POSSIBLE TRADE 1- :LARRY SMITH: IS THAT LARRY SMITH OF TUCSON? IF SO, PLEASE CONTACT ME 2- :JIM SHARPE: WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS YOUR ORIGINAL MANUALS; PLEASE CONTACT ME IF YOU WOULD 3- FUEL FRESH INC PO BOX 51000 PHOENIX ARIZONA 85076 TEL 480 345 6677 FAX 480 345 6699 reply

Larry Smith, e-mail, 09.04.2014 23:52 I was working at MAC starting in 1958 and know a little bit about the plane. As Mr. MAC was prone to do, he knew how to play the politics. He did not want this contract, wanted someone to have it as he was not sure of the market and did not want to tie up a production line. In order to insure our not getting the job, he had four very old surplus US Navy engines (long out of production) leased just for the one job. It was a beautiful plane and made all of us envy the few that got to fly it. Some trips were made to DC and other "show Off" areas but always being careful not to sell the idea. Also the Astronauts flew it some later on in the early 60's. It still is one of the most beautiful of the biz jets. Larry Smith reply

Scott Boyd, e-mail, 05.01.2012 22:12 It was parked in Albuquerque for years, moving from one site to another over the years I remember. I've walked and poked around it more then once. Seemed to be in pretty good shape for the most part. Like now the engines weren't covered and pretty much junk. I remember hearing it was restored but haven't heard much since then, a number of years ago again. reply

Leonardo Pierry, e-mail, 05.01.2012 18:00 Amazing to know the aircraft is still alive. Would be nice if someone restored its flight capabilities to use it in airshows. I read all the details of this aircraft and i still don't understand how this project didn't worked out, it was an aicraft ahead of its time and a perfect competitor for the Jetstar and yeah i guess the Air Force made it political its choice on the Jetstar over the 119 /220. reply

laozhu, 21.06.2011 06:01 Thomas's college Matale and St.Anthony's college Kandy, would love to contact Collin Berenger or his family. reply

Mark Fremmerlid, e-mail, 11.03.2011 07:41 A minature four podded jet engine aircraft. It's cute. It's just too cool. reply

Leonie albert, e-mail, 15.02.2011 22:14 Hi there, On behalf of my Dad Patrick Albert who was a classmate of Collin Berenger,I would like to have some contact details, as my Dad Patrick Albert a past pupil of St. Thomas's college Matale and St.Anthony's college Kandy, would love to contact Collin Berenger or his family. Thanking you, leonie (daughter) reply

Leonie albert, e-mail, 15.02.2011 22:12 Hi there, On behalf of my Dad Patrick Albert who was a classmate of Collin Berenger,I would like to have some contact details, as my Dad Patrick Albert a past pupil of St. Thomas's college Matale and St.Anthony's college Kandy, would love to contact Collin Berenger or his family. Thanking you, leonie (daughter) reply

maverick, 31.01.2011 01:26 lol looks like oversized f86! reply

Buck Rogers, e-mail, 09.09.2010 23:44 George Mills and I were the two pilots assigned to the Model 119 at McDonnell. Would like to have Jim Sharpe contact me if he is still available. reply

Will Meyer, e-mail, 30.05.2010 20:52 I was looking for it on Google Earth. I think I've found it at Latitude 31 degrees 47'41.23"N and Longitude 106 degrees 23'11.66"W. I also view the 220 as a very historic aircraft that should be restored. reply

Zaiton Mueller, e-mail, 24.05.2010 17:07 Hi Orleen Carlow, I know Mr Collin Berenger,I have got an e.mail address' his younger daughter , I will ask her if I could give you her e.mail address. reply

Oleen Carlow, e-mail, 10.05.2010 03:56 My Great Uncle is Collin Berenger. I would like to speak to him. My father is Denzil Berenger who he will know and is trying to get in contact with him. Would you please let Suzanne Berenger know. You have my email address. Please forward my email to her. reply

Jim Sharpe, e-mail, 19.05.2009 00:22 Was a member of preliminary design team for this project at Mcdonnell. Worked with the original windtunnel model at the low-speed tunnel at McDonnell to gather aerodynamic data for low and high speed flight characteristics. Was aboard on the second flight of 119. Quite an experience as experienced partial failure of roll control but landed without damage. Spent several weeks at Edwards AFB in flight competition with the Jetstar. Many interesting comments by test pilots for AF. Can't understand how we lost to Lockheed, must have been political. This plane was designed to typical McDonnell fighter g loads and with design specified engines would have been considerably faster with improved range and load carrying ability. The 119 was a beautiful sight to behold in its' original color scheme. It is sad that it just sits and deteriorates. I was in Duxford last year and viewed many WWII airplanes being restored. It would be nice to see the first certified business jet restored at put on display as a first. I still have one of the original manuals we made for military flight test pilots to familarize themselves with flight test characteristics. There was no flight simulator for the 119 at that time. Enjoyed the comments. reply

Jerry, e-mail, 03.05.2009 07:38 I inspected it on the ramp today and ran into one of the pilots that flew it. He has a T-Hanger near ours and the 220. He said it has not flown for 15 years. It looks like it is in good shape. He did indicate that it was sold some time ago but has never been touched by the new owner. He few it to SAT 15 years ago and the engines were in bad shape then with faulty fuel controls. They had to shut the inboards down to land back at ELP because of the burning fuel coming out of the exhaust. They used fire extinguishers to kill the burning fuel after landing. It has not flown since. You can look in the intakes and exhausts and see about a half inch of sand and would need complete overhauls. We have a lot of blowing sand here. I don't think it will be leaving ELP any time soon unless it is trucked out. reply

Bob Drake, e-mail, 09.04.2009 02:40 When I was a very young pup back in the 60s, maybe earlier, my parents took me to look at the planes on the business side of the airport.I did see this aircraft parked, oh yeah, this was at the Albuquerque airport. She's a real classic aircraft Glad to see this page. reply

Suzanne Berenger, e-mail, 11.03.2009 16:37 Gentlemen, my father Collin Berenger spent four years restoring this aircraft and making it airworthy in Albuquerque, New Mexico, it flew from there to El Paso December 1985. Its original registration was N22ON and was painted and re-registered N4AZ reply

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