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|Kris E Hankinson, e-mail, 16.04.2020 03:54|
I was an MP at El Toro at the time of the crash. The pilot was LtCol Lewis, the AC/s G-2. The investigation showed that a LCpl who had received office hours from the co-pilot, Maj Collins, placed a wrench in a position where while the plane was level it did not affect anything, thus the controls worked freely, but when the plane rotated for takeoff the wrench slid back and jammed the tail controls. The crash was 26 Sept 1975. Plane 141012.
|sven, 09.09.2015 00:53|
Add turboprops and a swept fin and you have a modern feederliner. As for being a DC3 replacement, that was never going to happen until fuel consumption became an issue.
|Martin Waldman, e-mail, 17.03.2013 10:26|
I was stationed at Brookley A.F.B Mobile Alabama from 1957 to 1960 in the 15th AMTS had 5 C-131A Air Evac airplanes.
|Martin, 27.11.2012 11:23|
My first airplane after tech school
|Wayne Wisseman, e-mail, 09.07.2012 21:56|
I was a crew chief on a T-29 at Westover AFB Mass. in the late 60's. 51-3814. email@example.com
|Martin Waldman, e-mail, 17.01.2012 11:36|
Served in the 15th AMTS Brookley AFB.We had 5 C-131A'S used for AIR EVAC.
|howard nethken, e-mail, 15.05.2011 18:13|
was roomy of sgt. terry dillow on c131 141012. i was crew chief on those 2 c131s. on leave at time of crash, refused to quqlify them guys for crew chief. someone else took em out. they didnt even do a preflite. thats how bad big shots wanted returnin veit vets to fly the west caost vip plane. dam dam damn. was a magnificent ac.was cc for 2 yrs, flew on crew for 4, was from metaL SHOP. knew all them guys. rip terry dillow.
|Gary Spangle, e-mail, 20.04.2011 23:44|
I found the date on the c-131 crash. it was 26 Sept 1975 and there was 6 man crew 4 fatal 2 survived. they staed that the air craft lost alt. thats not true. IT NEVER gained alt
This flight should not have taken off. there was something put in the controls that didnt alow the yoke to be pulled all the way back. If the run up had been perfromed corectly they would have taxied back to the hanger
|Gary Spangle, e-mail, 07.04.2011 20:32|
I was stationed at MCAS El Toro from 1973 to 1978 with H&HS Station El toro in the flight equipment shop and later worked at the visiting air craft line. I spent time getting crew cheif qualed in the 2 c-131'we had. Is there anyone out there that remembers when we lost 1 of them that crashed after take off. I was tasked with the recovery of this aircraft and can't seem to remember exactly when it happened. I do remember that both pilots were Majors and that there was only 1 surviver. If anyone has more imformation on this plaese contact me.
|Marshall Barfield, e-mail, 10.02.2011 15:15|
Serving in the US Coast Guard in Mobile Alabama, We used the C-131A as an interim . As a CG 'Flight Engineer' loved
flying in this great airship . Always a thrill, never a
dull moment. We all walked away . Great times ,great guys.
|Martin, e-mail, 07.02.2011 12:10|
I was stationed at Brookley A.F.B Mobile Alabama 1957-1960 in the 15th AMTS. We had 5 C-131A's. IT was a great airplane to work and fly on.
|george ( willy ) williams, e-mail, 22.01.2011 18:44|
I was at RAF Mildenhall 1973-75, serving as flight mech. on 899, was on 2 different flight crews to take the planes to tuson Az. boneyard. I was also on the crew that took 899 to Duxford. I also flew on a D model in Duluth Min.1970-72
|Terry Harrison, e-mail, 20.01.2011 08:15|
I was certified as an "orderly", too on VR-21's R4Y's. in the '50's. I also was plane captain on same aircraft and our COD fleet of TF-1 Traders. Best duty I had. Loved to fly and took every flight I could. We delivered "parts" to bases that weren't even on the map. COD flights were exciting, too. Loved traps and launches. Biggest thrill of my life.
|Jack Herzik, e-mail, 20.01.2011 05:09|
I probably was the pilot on one of the T-29's you were on, as I was stationed at James Connally from 64' to 66' after a tour in Turkey flying 29's. Enjoyed it a lot.
|Danny Howser, e-mail, 20.12.2010 18:09|
I was stationed at Mildenhall England from 1969 to 1973. I was the crew chief of T-29B 51-3816 and also flew as a flight mechanic. Initially the unit had C-47's but transitioned to the T-29. We had B, C and D models. They were great aircraft for the courier missions that we supported. When the T-29's were retired, 51-7899 was palced on display at Duxford England. Sadly, I learned that a few years later it was scrapped on site.
|J. W. Williams, e-mail, 30.11.2010 06:10|
I have over 5000 hours in the C-131 as an Air Evac pilot.
Truly reliable and fun to fly.
|TROY FORE, e-mail, 09.11.2010 02:04|
The T-29 was the first aircraft I flew on, I was stationed at Offutt Air Force Base. Nebraska from 1963 to 1966. I was a flying crew chief and mechanic,The T29 was a fantastic aircraft and a pleasure to fly.I retired at Travis A.F.B Ca. in 1986 as a CMSgt, 60 MAW Chief Flight Engineer flying C-141 aircraft
|JON JEBB, e-mail, 01.11.2010 04:16|
I work on the flight line for American Airlines at the Willow Run Airport during the early 51, 52 years. I remember they all would require oil on most stops and require wipe down so passengers would not be concerned. American flew many planes during those years.
|John Setser, e-mail, 16.10.2010 04:33|
I was an engine mechanic on the T29, stationed at James Connally AFB, Texas. There from summer of 1954 till June 1956. I hated those "dishpans". Also got back to the T29 at Offutt AFB, Neb. in 1964 and 1965. Great engine to work on!!!
|steve roppolo, e-mail, 16.10.2010 00:36|
I was a CC/Flight Mech on T-29 B-C-D's. I did a tour in Viet Nam from 1967 to 1968 on C 7A's at Vung Tau RVN. Sent in a consecutive oversaes and confused them. They sent me to LAAFS. [Los Angeles Air Force Station} I was a C/C on a T29B ???123B ;XXX179D . Can't remember the first #'s . I was allowed to become a Flight Mechanic. The Pratt Whitney engines on a T 29
- R2800-97[B] Max manifold pressure dry =53.5 wet 56.5 . C's&D's ran an R-2800-99's max manifold wet = 62" DRY 63" 115/145 FUEL . Did many transitions to the Mojave. Unusual attitudes engine shut downs etal and the best display of Doug B 26 "bombing" Ho Chi Minh trail trucks south of Edwards utilizing the Convair ...... Thanks Capt Pete Enjoyed it
|Michael Shore, e-mail, 14.10.2010 16:11|
I got to briefly crew on the Air Force model, the T-29 when in the Air Force. In later years, as a commercial pilot in Civil Air Patrol I got some stick time. What a rush.
|Roy M. Jones, e-mail, 07.10.2010 06:04|
I worked for Trans-Texas Airways 63 to 71, they had 20 240's and 25 DC-3's at the time. I was ramprat, did loadcompt, etc. 8 years with TTA, love the sound of those 2800's, flew on them, set in the jumpseat a lot on flights. they then changed them to Convair 600's with the RR engines, They made the airline a lot of money, over the years. Only had one crash that I remember. Helped the company mechanic's work on them, got my A&P in 1967, to me, an good running 2800 is an beautiful sound. Have hundreds of stories about them.
|Richard Ottens, e-mail, 25.09.2010 01:09|
I joined the USAF in 1973, went thru Aircraft Maintenence School on KC-97's. First duty station was Rhien Main AB, Germany, and went to work on the 5 T-29 A's & B's and 1 C131 D Model. Greatest memories are because I was the youngest troop, and tallest, in the 322nd Tactical Airlift Squadron, I would be volunteered to remove the sheetmetal "dishpan" and undo all those Zeus Fastners around the outside edge of that firewall from standing on the main landinggear wheel. Also remember being told not to watch the engine blades to closely at night with a lightall shining as the blades would hypnotize you.
All of our planes left in summer to fall of 1974 and I went to work on C-5A's and C141A's. Always loved the T-29's, and C131's---- wonderful birds....
|Charles Fiedler, e-mail, 15.09.2010 01:31|
Flew the CV-580 for a commuter airline in my career. It is built like a tank and a hot rod also!!
|Bruce Sorensen, e-mail, 08.09.2010 04:30|
Braniff had a predominate fleet of CV-340's but also had CV-440's. Several of the BNF Convair 340's were sold to North Central Airlines and converted to CV-580's. N3428 was one I recall offhand. Those same aircraft also wore the Northwest colors after the NWA/RC merger.
|Maynard Wedul, e-mail, 06.09.2010 17:52|
I was stationed at Ellington AFB from Jan 1954 till July 1957. I flew the Convair over 2800 Hours for navigation training. They were flying classrooms for training navigators. In all that time I had only one single engine landing. It was a very smooth , forgiving plane to fly. Very dependable. I went from EllingtonAFB to ElmendorfAFB in Anchorage Alaska and Flew the DEW line sites in
|Dan Nall, e-mail, 05.09.2010 03:17|
I flew flight Engineer on C131's in the last 60's from Pax River Md. VR-1 up and down East Coast and in / out of the Caribbean. I loved the plane. Only one bad experience with loosing a compressor. I was fortunate that some pilots gave me the chance to actually fly it!
|Bob Hamblin, e-mail, 21.08.2010 22:55|
Flew these as a Mission Pilot at Mather AFB from April 1956 - Dec 1957 putting in over 1000 hours. On a check ride we took off fom McClellan AFB with left engine feathered. Great plane to fly!
|George Dretaz, e-mail, 18.08.2010 23:51|
In 1959 I was stationed at Patuxant River MD. VR-1 was the squadron. We had about 10 of the Convair 240's, they were called R-4Y's. We flew cargo and passengers up and down the East Coast and to some of the southern islands. I was certified and an "Orderly" crew member and logged many hours in the air. I hated to leave the squadron in late 1961. It was a good airplane.
|howard nethken, e-mail, 16.05.2010 17:54|
crew chief for 4 yrs on mcas el toro c131 141019 from 74 to 78. best job in the corps. magnificent plane. any pix of it anywhere?
|John Cahoon, e-mail, 09.05.2010 21:32|
I flew the JC-131B version at Patrick AFB in the 1960's in support of the missile/space programs at the Cape. There is nothing in life sweeter than the sounds and smells of those beautiful big round engines.
|Richard Henningsen, e-mail, 11.03.2010 20:42|
I had the privilege of being an Instructor Navigator at both James Connally and Mather Air Force Bases from 1964 to 1970 and trained over 700 nav students aboard the T-29. It was rugged, dependable (even with one engine out and the other smoking)and pretty - even now. Great memories - I especially enjoyed pinning the wings on many of my students at their graduation.
|Jim Dodds, e-mail, 29.01.2010 05:29|
I was A & P mech on them at American Airlines 1957 till they where gone.
|George Berthelson, e-mail, 28.01.2010 21:46|
The first military aircraft I was every airborne in. I was in a USMC Reserve in Missoula, Montana and we flew to NAS North Island, California for our two week summer camp. At this time I was a PFC assigned the status as BARman. 21 years later the last aircraft I flew as a Marine Aviator was NAS Memphis' C-131. So the C-131 was my first and last aircraft exprience of my military career. Great bird!
|John McGrail, e-mail, 07.01.2010 20:49|
In the mid to late seventies, the Coast Guard acquired and reactivated retired Air Force C131s for use as a mid-range search and rescue, medivac, and recon platform while they waited for delivery of their new Falcon jets. I flew them for 4 years out of U.S. Coast Guard Air Station Miami and logged over 2500 hours; first as a brand new new co-pilot right out of the Naval Aviation Training Command, and later as an Aircraft Commander. It was an old and sometimes cranky aircraft by then, but we flew them hard and in every kind of wx condition including developing hurricanes; always got the job done and always got us home; albeiet once in a while on only one engine. I loved the aircraft and the sound and feeling of those 2800s at full takeoff power was awesome. Great memories!
|martin waldman, e-mail, 07.01.2010 20:23|
I was with the 15th AMTS at Brookley AFB Mobile AL.We had 5 C-131A's. I was there from 1957 to 1960.
|Jim Birke, e-mail, 31.12.2009 01:05|
I was stationed at Harlingen AFB from '57 to '61 as a crew chief on a T29 (No. 798 if memory serves me right). During that time there were three crashes, one pancake into a cotton field, one nose wheel failure, and one cartwheel which pretty much disassembled the bird. If anyone has any information about these incidents or knows where I might find it, Would you please email it to me.
Thanks Jim Birke 3610 flight line maintenance squadron.
|Mary Wilson, e-mail, 23.11.2009 00:52|
My father was with the crew that delivered the first Convair to Australia in 1948...Does anyone have any details of that trip?
|Martin Cross, e-mail, 21.09.2009 11:25|
It was an aircraft of this type that was transporting southern rock band Lynyrd Skynyrd from Greenville, South Carolina to Baton Rouge, Louisianna when it crashed near Gillsburg, Mississippi on October 20, 1977. A right engine magneto fault was identified as a contributing factor in the crash.
|lee, e-mail, 03.07.2009 06:53|
transtexas got their convair 240s from american-they didnt have 440s-braniff had 340s-delta and eastern had 440s
|Gerardo A. Staiano, e-mail, 05.05.2009 17:36|
I've ever admired the Convair 240 since observing it's operation daily for Aerolineas Argentinas in the late fifties.
I remember the steep climb angle and the sound of the counterthrust of the props on landings which permitted the use of short runways. May I have also seen four blade props installed? What I'm sure is that all were original piston engines. Best regards. G
|Mark, e-mail, 27.04.2009 22:53|
I think it was a 240 and not one of the later models. Sure looked a lot like this one.
Took my first ever, airplane flight in this critter. As I recall, it was operated by Trans Texas Airways and the trip was from Houston, TX's Hobby Airport to New Orleans. Time line was 1959-1960.
I thought it was so cool. Really enjoyed the flight. Back then you walked across the tarmac and climbed up the boarding ladder. Had a beautiful stewardess greet you on the flight deck. Geez where has all that gone?
Made it to NOLA in what I thought was record time.
|ErnieB, e-mail, 25.03.2009 18:56|
The C-131A was the first airplane I ever worked on, back at Eglin AFB in 1974, as an Autopilot technician. We had both 131s and T-29s. They were beautiful airplanes, and I am sorry to see them all retired. I did get to re-tour one at Sun-n-Fun back in 05.
|firstname.lastname@example.org, e-mail, 25.03.2009 13:38|
I started out as a crew chief and then become a flight mechanic on T29A, B, and C, D and on C-131A in the late 60ís and into the early 70ís at Scott Air Force Base IL. We flew these aircraft approximately 120 hours per month in special air missions and aero evacuation support. The aircraft were actually pretty good and flew great, we did have some problems, but today I believe most of them were all self generated. The cost of the operation sky rocketed due to maintenance and parts cost. If the Air Force would have given the regular Air Force mechanics proper training the cost would have been cut. Also at the same time there was a hidden agenda of the Air Force Reserves trying to take over the full maintenance operations. Most of our missions were hauling VIP or inspection teams, around the country or flying local mission training or keep code 4 pilots current and navigators.
These old aircraft should have been around for several more years then they were.
|Hank Silvia, e-mail, 10.12.2008 18:28|
My first flight was in a piper cub sitting in my dad's lap in 1940 from a grass field in Newport Rhode Island...
In 1954, at Bilouxi Miss while attending electronics tech school I would spend hours at the end of the runway fascinated by the T-29 s as they flared for landings. I can't describe it but that feeling of connection with the aircraft at that moment stayed with me through 10,000 hours of PIC . The t-29's were my inspiration, I can still feel that moment between flare and the first squeak of the tires...
Never did fly a T-29 though, and did not renew my physical after my 73d Birthday...
|Robbie Robbins, e-mail, 19.08.2008 04:44|
Many T-29's were converted to VIP transports in the 1960's. I was a radio operator on ferry crews for VT-29B from Land Air Corp., Cheyenne, Wyoming to Weisbaden AB, Germany in 1963. These planes went to the various American embassies in Europe.
I was the radio operator on VT-29D #25816 in Rio de Janeiro (JBUSMC) 1972-1974 as well.(it replaced our C-54G)
|GEORGE MILLER, e-mail, 22.07.2008 17:30|
ANY SUGGESTIONS WHERE I CAN BUY A WOODEN PUT TOGETHER KIT OF THIS WONDERFUL AIRCRAFT? I FIRST MET IT AS A CARGO HANDLER FOR AMERICAN AIRLINES AT OHARE IN LATE 1955 AND HAD A MODEL OF IT THAT HAS LONG SINCE BEEN MISPLACED. LATER I WAS AN OPERATIONS GUY THAT DID THE WEIGHT AND BAL.
|w. D. Woodruff, e-mail, 10.06.2008 01:00|
As honest an airplane you would want to fly. Flew T 29s, c 131s in various configurations and enjoyed all of it.
|Bob Quinter, e-mail, 03.05.2008 06:55|
The U.S. DOD also flew the 131Fs,Gs and Hs(turboprops) with some carrying up to 60 passengers depending upon configuration. Another feature in these aircraft was the cargo door on the port side aft.
|Dick Hall, e-mail, 30.04.2008 19:50|
As I remember there were several 'upgrades or modifications' to the original airframe/powerplants. Seems that the last 'factory' model was the 580 (?). The major difference was the upgraded power plants, from radial to constant speed engines/props. A later modification comes out of Canada and is listed as the 5800. They've stretched the body by about a dozen feet, upgraded the engines and now produce three versions--all passenger, half passenger, half freight, or all frieght. Last I heard, you could buy one of these truly 'rivet up' re-manufactured birds for about $7 million--in today's market as good a bargain as I've seen lately! Dick
|thawkins, e-mail, 23.09.2007 02:31|
the engine sub-designation was CB-16.