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| The PB4Y-2 was a long-range oversea bomber-reconnaissance development of the PB4Y-1 Liberator. The original contract was placed with Consolidated by the US Navy in May 1943 and work on three prototypes started almost immediately. Four months later, on 20 September, the first prototype flew. It used the same Davis wing and landing gear as the Liberator but was otherwise a new design embodying most of the structural features of its predecessor. The most obvious change was the single fin and rudder. The fuselage forward of the wings was lengthened and armament was rearranged to include a Consolidated nose turret, two Martin dorsal turrets, a Consolidated tail turret and two Erco 'blister'-type waist turrets on the fuselage sides, all with 12.7mm Browning machine-guns. A total of 740 were built. A transport version was also built as the RY-3, of which a small number found their way into US Navy and RAF service.
| MODEL | PB4Y-2 |
| CREW | 11 |
| ENGINE | 4 x 1,350hp Pratt & Whitney R-1830-94 |
| WEIGHTS |
| Take-off weight | 29510 kg | 65059 lb |
| Empty weight | 17018 kg | 37518 lb |
| DIMENSIONS |
| Wingspan | 33.53 m | 110 ft 0 in |
| Length | 22.73 m | 75 ft 7 in |
| Height | 9.17 m | 30 ft 1 in |
| Wing area | 97.36 m2 | 1047.97 sq ft |
| PERFORMANCE |
| Max. speed | 382 km/h | 237 mph |
| Cruise speed | 225 km/h | 140 mph |
| Ceiling | 6309 m | 20700 ft |
| Range | 4508 km | 2801 miles |
| ARMAMENT | 12 x 12.7mm machine-guns |
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| Chester Keene, e-mail, 10.08.2010 04:47 My wife and I found one of these planes in the Everglades being used as a hunting camp. It had no wings or tail verticle stablizer and elevators were missing. It was built up on a concrete block structure. We took a picture of it in 1986.We think it was trucked in from Miami. reply | | Kevin Mason, e-mail, 12.08.2010 05:47 My Dad,a marine, flew pb4y's,doing recon missions over
many of the islands in the south pacific,have his log book but he never mentioned anybody's name he flew with,anyone
having more info about his crew and time there would much
appreciated, his name Sgt Edwin S. Mason. thx reply | | Bill Fann, e-mail, 01.06.2010 20:16 My Father served in WWII on a pb4y2 from 1943-45 class m-23-w was wondering if anyone knew him he was a wing leader section one seving in the pacific theater known as "red" Wilmer Fann was his name. reply | | Bill Fann, e-mail, 01.06.2010 20:15 My Father served in WWII on a pb4y2 from 1943-45 class m-23-w was wondering if anyone knew him he was a wing leader section one seving in the pacific theater known as "red" Wilmer Fann was his name. reply | |
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www.sharetipsexpert.com /Commodity_trading_tips.aspx reply | | John Reid, e-mail, 30.04.2010 05:33 My Dad, Whitelaw Reid, was a captain and flew an PB4Y2, up to Saipan and Tinian, and many other areas. Had many stories. One was also about running out of gas while taxying off the runway. One story he did not tell but at his funeral a crew mate told me, that they were the first US plane to land in Japan after the end of the war. Apparently they faked mechanical problems, and a broken radio to land, just to be the first in. Said they were well taken care of by the Japanese, and flew out 1 day later. Not sure why he did not ever talk about this. Maybe couldn't tell his son about disobeying orders like that?? Said he loved the plane. Was sad to leave it when he was discharged. His crew met almost every year up till 2009 when he died at 94. reply | | James Murphy, e-mail, 18.04.2010 00:13 My Dad Elbert L. "Lance" Murphy flew PB4Y out of England, VPB-109 or 110, not sure. He was with Lt. Reedy who later became an Admiral and with Joe Kennedy Jr. Any info about his squadron will be greatly appreciated. reply | | christine stulik, e-mail, 12.04.2010 08:27 My Dad Martin A. Usab flew on the PB4Y-2 in the Pacific with VPB-108 mostly flying forward reconnaissance for Bull Halsey's third fleet I believe. He worked as a draftsman /engineer for Consolidated Aircraft and knew the aircraft well, and so served as a "Plane Captain" and a waist-gunner. I was able to attend one reunion in his stead. They spoke of "Whitecap Specials" as missions. Have his Medals, citations, log book and Squadron Book and photos for my grandchildren. His aircraft was "Nippo Nippin Kitten." Crew 11 and 13. VB and VPB-108 has an amazing history as does the PB4Y-2 as firebomber later in its history. reply | | Robert Smith, e-mail, 10.04.2010 16:01 My dad Frank C Smith was a tail gunner on the Navy PB4Y2 , had some great stories! reply | | Richard Jeffreys, e-mail, 04.04.2010 01:15 I was 1st radioman and top turret gunner (VPB 121) on this aircraft. I also flew as a crew member (2nd radioman) in a B-24 in VD-1, but liked the privateer better... Both aircrafts got us back to the base safely after several "Combat missions".....
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| Conry Clemens, e-mail, 20.03.2010 23:23 My grandfather, Lt. (j.g.) H. Donald Clemens, was a co-pilot with VPB-106 on 4Y-2's during WWII. I'm named for another co-pilot, Ens. Edward Francis Conry, who was MIA on a patrol to the Gulf of Siam. reply |
| A.SCHIANO, e-mail, 14.03.2010 21:07 I WAS A PASSENGER FROM HICKUM FIELD TO CANTON ISLAND IN THE ELLICE GROUP IN 1944 reply | | Capt. R. Bruce Campbell, USN (, e-mail, 12.03.2010 01:44 A PB4Y2 from VP28 left Barber's Point NAS one night in 1948 or 9 bound for NAS North Island via NAS Alameda. Plane Commander was AD1 Kirshner, co-pilot Lt. Bill Campbell, 1st Navigator was another first class petty officer who's name I've forgotten, and the 2nd navigator was Midshipman R. Bruce Campbell. The plane captain was a chief petty officer. How's that for a motley crew? We had some serious icing problems approaching San Francisco (a PB4Y2 glides very poorly) but we made it. Returning to Barber's Point in a newly overhauled plane, we left Alameda at dark and returned to Alameda at daylight five nights in a row having been called back approaching the point of no return by Commander Fleet Air Alameda because the wind factor forecast was faulty and we would not have made it. reply | |
| | Richard Herbst, e-mail, 30.01.2010 19:32 Just found a 1942-45 logbook of my dad's (Lt Fred Herbst) with a lot of PIC time in PB4Y2s and just about anything else the Navy put behind a prop. His last year of service, flew with Ferry Sqadron 3 out of San Pedro. Crew names include Lts de Brruniops, Leach, Brand, Gates, Duke, du Bose, Bergy, Taylor, Thweatt, Wingerd, Miller, Hecker, others. Log includes all AC serial numbers.
Richard reply | | James B. Totten, e-mail, 28.01.2010 16:31 Went on my second tour to Kanehoa Bay , Oahu NAS, Dec.
1945, with the Exec's PB4Y-2, which was disbanded soon after
we arrived. The plane was new. I was a AMM 3c, tail gunner. reply | | Robert Stewart, e-mail, 25.01.2010 21:31 While in PBY Sqd.VPAM3 I went to aerial gunnery school at FAETU lant and had the the privilige of flying several hops in the Erco turrets. 1947 reply | | Roy Canales, e-mail, 25.01.2010 04:55 I knew Terry Palmer's father and flew with him as Radio /Radar operator in Navy Patrol squadron VP-28 in 1951. Lt. Bill Campbell was PPC in PB4Y-2 CF-4, Bu.No. 59738.
We flew firefly (flare drop) and bombing missions at night over North Korea, in coordination with Marine Grumman F7F fighter bombers. Our call sign for these missions was "Fat Face". The mission was to destroy military truck or train traffic. PB4Y-2's were designed for anti-sub and long range sea patrols but were pressed into combat over North Korea because of long flight endurance and it's load carrying capability, some missions lasting as long as 6+ hours which may have been a record for sustained flight over North Korea. Other PB4Y-2 squadrons involved were VP-772 and VP-871.
I have kept up with the restoration project of the PB4Y-2 at Galveston and a few of years ago, my ex VP-28 squadron mates and I contributed a sum of money toward the project. Unfortunately, the Lone Star Museum in Galveston was severely damaged by a hurricane during which some 8 ft. of water flooded the hangars including the one housing the PB4Y-2. reply | | ken simpson, e-mail, 24.12.2009 04:26 My Dad, Albert William Simpson. was a WW11 PB4Y-2 pilot, anyone know him? I sure would like to hear from anyone that knew him. reply | | Mike Moyer, e-mail, 03.11.2009 19:02 That's my Dad flying that PB4Y-2 with the mountains in the background.He was Lt.jg Russell Moyer PPC.He was in VB106 and Vb109.I have his log books and tons of photos . He picked up D67 at the Consolidated Factory. It was destroyed in a Japanese suicide attack while parked on the ground. That attack has been well documented. Write me if you want more info. reply |
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Richard: My father was a radioman /gunner in VPB 121, Crew 6.
If you are still actively engaged in research on VPB 121, please contact me. Email is jimmietarleton@aol.com.
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